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Wherein Cam Talks Too Much About X-Men: First Class
So. My obsession with X-Men: First Class is reaching critical levels. I thought that the giddy infatuation would fade after a week or so (as so often happens for me with shiny new (sort of) fandoms), but it's been two weeks now and it's only getting worse. D:
I honestly expected next to nothing from this movie. While I liked X1 and X2 a lot, I was never in love with them, and Last Stand and Wolverine were just—I don't even want to remember them, okay, and then the trailers and clips for First Class were horrendous, and out of everyone in the X-franchise I've never even been all that interested in Professor X and Magneto. So I basically just saw this because I randomly had time to kill and I was already by the movie theater.
AND THEN IT WAS LIKE GETTING HIT IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD BY A TWO-BY-FOUR, AND I HAVE YET TO SHAKE THE LITTLE STARS AND TWEETY-BIRDS OUT OF MY EYES. ♥_♥ I CAN'T EVEN REGRET IT, GAWD.
It's a wonderful comic book movie.
I mean, it's not like there aren't plenty of flaws, I'm not saying that. There are race and gender issues, some of which are on purpose because it's set in the 60's, and others which could have been avoided. There are some pacing issues, the woman playing Emma Frost is...not good, I found it hard at times to see Kevin Bacon as Sebastian Shaw instead of, y'know, Kevin Bacon, the supporting characters could have used more development though on the whole they were well done, there were some huge continuity breaks (both in diverging from the comics and also diverging from the other movies, none of which I minded because whatev, whatev, I conceptualize it as a reboot and anything that retcons X3 gets my okay), and they try to cram a lot of events into a pretty short time frame. As much as I loved the ending, as effective as it was for ripping out my heart and stomping it into tiny bitty pieces, as painfully, horribly perfect a way it was to (SPOILERS:) [paralyze Charles], the development of Charles and Erik's friendship and their conflicts and clashes and eventual break (along with Raven's shift) is something that probably should have spanned years in canon time, and thus would have been better handled over multiple movies.
ALL THAT BEING SAID, now that I'm through with my objective-viewer caveats, lol—I loved this movie pretty damn unreservedly. Like. I came out of the theater already making grabby-hands for FIC and FANDOM and META and SQUEE and HEART-EYES, cackled madly when I discovered there was already a kinkmeme and people writing amazing fills, and I've barely surfaced for air since. I have about 40 different tabs open at the moment, and almost all of them are First Class related. ...Yup. 8|a
Why the obsession, you ask? What is the draw? Well, like I said, it's a great comic book movie. The scale is epic, the musical score is epic, the effects—though somewhat rushed in places by the production schedule—worked great for me (with a few exceptions), the plot was pretty interesting and neither convoluted nor particularly dumbed-down, the Holocaust scenes were chilling and fairly accurate, the mix of BADASS and humor and drama and angst was well-balanced, the way powers were downplayed so that they became a natural part of the characters and the world allowed for the EPIC moments to pop even more than in some of the other movies where every single instance of power-usage was played up for the 'ooooo! aaaaa!' factor, the way it paralleled minority issues and echoed the Civil Rights movement and toyed with self-acceptance and pride versus hiding and assimilating, and with discrimination and hate and fear, and basically addressed a whole host of ideological issues that actually had roots and believable depth and thus allowed you to get invested and understand both sides—all that was wonderful.
….
And.
More.
Importantly.
CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@_@
Like.
I can't even.
They were amazing. The movie is about them, make no mistake, the whole thing hinges on their chemistry and connection and the development of their friendship and the believability of their importance to each other, and it. Is. Beautiful. James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender knocked it out of the fucking park—in all honesty they, as actors, are way too good for this kind of herpaderp comic-book-blockbuster genre, but that's wonderful, because just as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan elevated the other X movies through their quality, McAvoy and Fassbender elevated First Class through the goddamn roof. Like. In interviews they clearly knew it was a la-dee-da blockbuster and that a great deal of why they took the parts was because they wanted to work with each other, they wanted to work with this specific director, and hey, they were prepared to have a great deal of fun making the movies...But they played it beautifully straight, owned the roles, gave them so much heart and life and sat around reworking the script for days because adding a bonding scene here would make the progression of the relationship more real, and oh, oh, it worked.
I don't even usually ship things on first view; unless it's an explicitly romantic, well-done relationship my shipping goggles don't come into play until I've engaged the canon more closely and wandered around through the fandom twanging my fingernail against other people's opinions and seeing which ones resonate for me. For example, with two of my strongest ships, Zoro/Sanji from One Piece and Tim/Kon from DCU, I didn't come out of reading their comics shipping it, much less actually seeing it in the canon. The love for them together came out of an exploration of dynamics that appealed to me.
With Charles and Erik? I was sitting in the theater with my heart in my throat going OH GOD, KISS HIM YOU FOOL! KISS! HIM! and for a moment actually thinking he would.
THAT NEVER HAPPENS TO ME.
And I'm not the only one! I keep running across endless accounts from fans about their friends/parents/brothers/boyfriends who never see slash in anything coming out of that movie either, like, 'oh yeah, those two were in love', or even shipping it and vigorously defending the pairing's validity. And one of the reasons it appeals to me, when, for example, the recent Sherlock Holmes movie didn't particularly make me ship Holmes/Watson despite being slashy as hell, was that it wasn't something that was played for laughs. It wasn't this sly, overplayed, nudge-nudge-wink-wink nod to fangirls or whatever that the actors and directors and everyone can have a field day with but never actual intend to go anywhere with it. It was just this. Amazingly obvious, intense, well-acted and believable connection and mutual fascination and draw between two characters almost before they even properly meet, what with Charles's telepathy and how he sensed Erik like a bolt out of the blue. I reacted to it as if it were an actualfax canonic romantic tragedy playing out on the screen, and it could have been.
When the actor who plays Charles Xavier says things like: “It's kind of a love story, like “Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid,” which, really, was a love story between two men. This is the first time in their lives they’ve met someone who is an equal of sorts, someone who understands them and can connect and push them too. Especially Charles, he’s fascinated with Erik and his potential. For Erik, Charles is the first person he’s trusted to really tell about his past and the first person to understand the horrible things he’s been through.” I can't even. I have no defense jesus christ, I'm done. That kind of dynamic, of strong equals who push each other in the midst of mutual fascination and admiration and conflict, that is my Kryptonite, my absolute Achilles heel when it comes to shipping, and these two hit it harder than anything. I can ship other dynamics, but this one utterly slays me.
And as much as I can rhapsodize about these two and their dynamic as a pair, they're equally fascinating as individuals. I love how sympathetic Erik is even as he's misguided, I love his intensity, his hypocrisy and lack of apology, his experience and his pain and his conviction, his determination and lack of hesitation or doubt and his protectiveness and his vision for the world and his ruthlessness in pursuing it and how he's so much more than he believes himself to be and the way it's like he cracks open and spills over his own edges when Charles gets him to laugh. I love Charles's unrelenting optimism and the way he empathizes hopelessly and sees the good in everyone and wants to help them and better the world, I love that at the same time as all that he's also clearly so much younger and more imperfect than the Professor Xavier that we usually see, a little fast and loose with the ethics of mindreading, a dork and an absolutely rubbish flirt, kind of harmfully, sometimes willfully blind towards people and ideas in some cases, which is so ironic with a telepath; I love his enthusiasm and his generosity and his loneliness and his hair. :D I love how they interact with the kids and with outsiders and with each other. I love the chess.
It's just ridiculous, okay. I want to write them all the words ever, but then I get impossibly sidetracked reading the thousands and thousands of beautiful words that other people are already writing for them. (OH GOD I CAN'T DO THEM JUSTICE.) There are so many ideas, so many fics I would love to write, but all my musings inevitably turn prompts toward epic length, and pssshhhh I have no idea how to sustain something like that.
I am crushed by the unbelievable amount of gorgeous, heartrending angst being written—it's hard to escape angst with these two, really—and I love it, but fffffff I'm a happy-ending girl at heart, really. D: MOAR AUs and FIX-IT FIC, PLZ. Although there are a healthy number of those as well, some of them amazingly good. I want to see Scott and Jean and Storm incorporated into the 'verse, I want to see Erik and Charles found Genosha, I want them to conquer the world, I want to see Erik stay at the school and help Charles teach and oversee the advent of a new species, I want so many things. And I already have so many epic WIPs tracked on the kinkmemes, it's idiotic. *__*
While I've been waffling about wishing I could just sit down and write endless fic for them and instead despairing at my own inadequacy, I've also been poking about dear_mun. Because trying to get a handle on the characters via RP is easier than just jumping in off the deep end, maybe. Except not, and wow there are some really good people floating about already, SO INTIMIDATING, and unlike in fic where you can orchestrate things yourself, with RP you have to get the dynamic down with another person, and that's hard to do when there's so much room for personal interpretation in the canon, and endless assumptions to be made about what kinds of things went on off-screen, during downtime, etc. And also with a telepath in the mix. 8|a
I also feel like I need to set down an entire headcanon to get a firm grasp on how to play people who really have so little screentime, so it's hard to play without doing so, even if just derping about is easy enough to do. Like. How long did Shaw have Erik, really? When and how did he escape? What did he do in the intervening years, was it all Nazi hunting? Was he a soldier? Where did he go, who are the people he met? And with Charles, did his stepfather and Cain exist in this 'verse? How did Raven fit in as they were growing up? What was the development of his powers like, how did he get such good control? There are so many gaps to fill, and even though they have decades of comics canon, I'm not really comfortable pulling from it wholesale.
Not to mention I'm not looking to jump into any actual multifandom games with a new character. Too much to deal with, I think. (Although *sob*, why is![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
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….This~ entry~ is~ too~ long~~~ This is why I update so rarely, I always ramble for hours. 8|a And I have like five other things I wanted to ramble about, like the new Young Justice episode, and the DCU reboot, and Zoro and Reepicheep and dropping from Luceti, and my ridiculous crush on James McAvoy (WHYYY IS HE SO CHARMING, his features shouldn't even go together particularly well in theory, but then he walks around all smiling and saying words and breathing air and I am like hnnnnng and then go watch three of his movies in 24 hours), and etc. etc. etc.
...S-some other time for all that, I guess. orz
PS - Hi everybody from theerik_charles Friending Meme! *waves frantically* Welcome!
I honestly expected next to nothing from this movie. While I liked X1 and X2 a lot, I was never in love with them, and Last Stand and Wolverine were just—I don't even want to remember them, okay, and then the trailers and clips for First Class were horrendous, and out of everyone in the X-franchise I've never even been all that interested in Professor X and Magneto. So I basically just saw this because I randomly had time to kill and I was already by the movie theater.
AND THEN IT WAS LIKE GETTING HIT IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD BY A TWO-BY-FOUR, AND I HAVE YET TO SHAKE THE LITTLE STARS AND TWEETY-BIRDS OUT OF MY EYES. ♥_♥ I CAN'T EVEN REGRET IT, GAWD.
It's a wonderful comic book movie.
I mean, it's not like there aren't plenty of flaws, I'm not saying that. There are race and gender issues, some of which are on purpose because it's set in the 60's, and others which could have been avoided. There are some pacing issues, the woman playing Emma Frost is...not good, I found it hard at times to see Kevin Bacon as Sebastian Shaw instead of, y'know, Kevin Bacon, the supporting characters could have used more development though on the whole they were well done, there were some huge continuity breaks (both in diverging from the comics and also diverging from the other movies, none of which I minded because whatev, whatev, I conceptualize it as a reboot and anything that retcons X3 gets my okay), and they try to cram a lot of events into a pretty short time frame. As much as I loved the ending, as effective as it was for ripping out my heart and stomping it into tiny bitty pieces, as painfully, horribly perfect a way it was to (SPOILERS:) [paralyze Charles], the development of Charles and Erik's friendship and their conflicts and clashes and eventual break (along with Raven's shift) is something that probably should have spanned years in canon time, and thus would have been better handled over multiple movies.
ALL THAT BEING SAID, now that I'm through with my objective-viewer caveats, lol—I loved this movie pretty damn unreservedly. Like. I came out of the theater already making grabby-hands for FIC and FANDOM and META and SQUEE and HEART-EYES, cackled madly when I discovered there was already a kinkmeme and people writing amazing fills, and I've barely surfaced for air since. I have about 40 different tabs open at the moment, and almost all of them are First Class related. ...Yup. 8|a
Why the obsession, you ask? What is the draw? Well, like I said, it's a great comic book movie. The scale is epic, the musical score is epic, the effects—though somewhat rushed in places by the production schedule—worked great for me (with a few exceptions), the plot was pretty interesting and neither convoluted nor particularly dumbed-down, the Holocaust scenes were chilling and fairly accurate, the mix of BADASS and humor and drama and angst was well-balanced, the way powers were downplayed so that they became a natural part of the characters and the world allowed for the EPIC moments to pop even more than in some of the other movies where every single instance of power-usage was played up for the 'ooooo! aaaaa!' factor, the way it paralleled minority issues and echoed the Civil Rights movement and toyed with self-acceptance and pride versus hiding and assimilating, and with discrimination and hate and fear, and basically addressed a whole host of ideological issues that actually had roots and believable depth and thus allowed you to get invested and understand both sides—all that was wonderful.
….
And.
More.
Importantly.
CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK CHARLES AND ERIK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@_@
Like.
I can't even.
They were amazing. The movie is about them, make no mistake, the whole thing hinges on their chemistry and connection and the development of their friendship and the believability of their importance to each other, and it. Is. Beautiful. James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender knocked it out of the fucking park—in all honesty they, as actors, are way too good for this kind of herpaderp comic-book-blockbuster genre, but that's wonderful, because just as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan elevated the other X movies through their quality, McAvoy and Fassbender elevated First Class through the goddamn roof. Like. In interviews they clearly knew it was a la-dee-da blockbuster and that a great deal of why they took the parts was because they wanted to work with each other, they wanted to work with this specific director, and hey, they were prepared to have a great deal of fun making the movies...But they played it beautifully straight, owned the roles, gave them so much heart and life and sat around reworking the script for days because adding a bonding scene here would make the progression of the relationship more real, and oh, oh, it worked.
I don't even usually ship things on first view; unless it's an explicitly romantic, well-done relationship my shipping goggles don't come into play until I've engaged the canon more closely and wandered around through the fandom twanging my fingernail against other people's opinions and seeing which ones resonate for me. For example, with two of my strongest ships, Zoro/Sanji from One Piece and Tim/Kon from DCU, I didn't come out of reading their comics shipping it, much less actually seeing it in the canon. The love for them together came out of an exploration of dynamics that appealed to me.
With Charles and Erik? I was sitting in the theater with my heart in my throat going OH GOD, KISS HIM YOU FOOL! KISS! HIM! and for a moment actually thinking he would.
THAT NEVER HAPPENS TO ME.
And I'm not the only one! I keep running across endless accounts from fans about their friends/parents/brothers/boyfriends who never see slash in anything coming out of that movie either, like, 'oh yeah, those two were in love', or even shipping it and vigorously defending the pairing's validity. And one of the reasons it appeals to me, when, for example, the recent Sherlock Holmes movie didn't particularly make me ship Holmes/Watson despite being slashy as hell, was that it wasn't something that was played for laughs. It wasn't this sly, overplayed, nudge-nudge-wink-wink nod to fangirls or whatever that the actors and directors and everyone can have a field day with but never actual intend to go anywhere with it. It was just this. Amazingly obvious, intense, well-acted and believable connection and mutual fascination and draw between two characters almost before they even properly meet, what with Charles's telepathy and how he sensed Erik like a bolt out of the blue. I reacted to it as if it were an actualfax canonic romantic tragedy playing out on the screen, and it could have been.
When the actor who plays Charles Xavier says things like: “It's kind of a love story, like “Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid,” which, really, was a love story between two men. This is the first time in their lives they’ve met someone who is an equal of sorts, someone who understands them and can connect and push them too. Especially Charles, he’s fascinated with Erik and his potential. For Erik, Charles is the first person he’s trusted to really tell about his past and the first person to understand the horrible things he’s been through.” I can't even. I have no defense jesus christ, I'm done. That kind of dynamic, of strong equals who push each other in the midst of mutual fascination and admiration and conflict, that is my Kryptonite, my absolute Achilles heel when it comes to shipping, and these two hit it harder than anything. I can ship other dynamics, but this one utterly slays me.
And as much as I can rhapsodize about these two and their dynamic as a pair, they're equally fascinating as individuals. I love how sympathetic Erik is even as he's misguided, I love his intensity, his hypocrisy and lack of apology, his experience and his pain and his conviction, his determination and lack of hesitation or doubt and his protectiveness and his vision for the world and his ruthlessness in pursuing it and how he's so much more than he believes himself to be and the way it's like he cracks open and spills over his own edges when Charles gets him to laugh. I love Charles's unrelenting optimism and the way he empathizes hopelessly and sees the good in everyone and wants to help them and better the world, I love that at the same time as all that he's also clearly so much younger and more imperfect than the Professor Xavier that we usually see, a little fast and loose with the ethics of mindreading, a dork and an absolutely rubbish flirt, kind of harmfully, sometimes willfully blind towards people and ideas in some cases, which is so ironic with a telepath; I love his enthusiasm and his generosity and his loneliness and his hair. :D I love how they interact with the kids and with outsiders and with each other. I love the chess.
It's just ridiculous, okay. I want to write them all the words ever, but then I get impossibly sidetracked reading the thousands and thousands of beautiful words that other people are already writing for them. (OH GOD I CAN'T DO THEM JUSTICE.) There are so many ideas, so many fics I would love to write, but all my musings inevitably turn prompts toward epic length, and pssshhhh I have no idea how to sustain something like that.
I am crushed by the unbelievable amount of gorgeous, heartrending angst being written—it's hard to escape angst with these two, really—and I love it, but fffffff I'm a happy-ending girl at heart, really. D: MOAR AUs and FIX-IT FIC, PLZ. Although there are a healthy number of those as well, some of them amazingly good. I want to see Scott and Jean and Storm incorporated into the 'verse, I want to see Erik and Charles found Genosha, I want them to conquer the world, I want to see Erik stay at the school and help Charles teach and oversee the advent of a new species, I want so many things. And I already have so many epic WIPs tracked on the kinkmemes, it's idiotic. *__*
While I've been waffling about wishing I could just sit down and write endless fic for them and instead despairing at my own inadequacy, I've also been poking about dear_mun. Because trying to get a handle on the characters via RP is easier than just jumping in off the deep end, maybe. Except not, and wow there are some really good people floating about already, SO INTIMIDATING, and unlike in fic where you can orchestrate things yourself, with RP you have to get the dynamic down with another person, and that's hard to do when there's so much room for personal interpretation in the canon, and endless assumptions to be made about what kinds of things went on off-screen, during downtime, etc. And also with a telepath in the mix. 8|a
I also feel like I need to set down an entire headcanon to get a firm grasp on how to play people who really have so little screentime, so it's hard to play without doing so, even if just derping about is easy enough to do. Like. How long did Shaw have Erik, really? When and how did he escape? What did he do in the intervening years, was it all Nazi hunting? Was he a soldier? Where did he go, who are the people he met? And with Charles, did his stepfather and Cain exist in this 'verse? How did Raven fit in as they were growing up? What was the development of his powers like, how did he get such good control? There are so many gaps to fill, and even though they have decades of comics canon, I'm not really comfortable pulling from it wholesale.
Not to mention I'm not looking to jump into any actual multifandom games with a new character. Too much to deal with, I think. (Although *sob*, why is
luceti….This~ entry~ is~ too~ long~~~ This is why I update so rarely, I always ramble for hours. 8|a And I have like five other things I wanted to ramble about, like the new Young Justice episode, and the DCU reboot, and Zoro and Reepicheep and dropping from Luceti, and my ridiculous crush on James McAvoy (WHYYY IS HE SO CHARMING, his features shouldn't even go together particularly well in theory, but then he walks around all smiling and saying words and breathing air and I am like hnnnnng and then go watch three of his movies in 24 hours), and etc. etc. etc.
...S-some other time for all that, I guess. orz
PS - Hi everybody from the
erik_charles Friending Meme! *waves frantically* Welcome!
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Thanks for the recs!!!!!! I've been reading fic a lot today so I hope there are some new ones there. (I also added those communities, oh my god how fast do we fall?) I always find the dud fics. I've read a couple of them and I'm just like: "Mmmmm...kkaaaaay. You just had Charles my 'my friend' twice in one sentence. Did that not ring any bells to you?!"
I have faith in their ability to make the next movie amazing.
Yessssss! I will buy that DVD like a BOSS. And I will also snipe the icons. When is it coming out? Is it that time yet?
I do......but I haven't done anything with him yet. For as confident as I'm pretending to be right now, I'm also nervous!! I MIGHT NOT BE SMART ENOUGH TO PULL HIM OFF!!! BUT YES. I WILL JOIN YOU OMG.
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You're welcome!! I seriously have a bunch more I need to add, I just went through and added all of the kink_meme WIPs I had tracked before I commented to you because I hadn't been bookmarking things to Delicious, just saving them on my comp. >.>a And ffff, yeah, as the fandom explodes we're undoubtedly getting a lot more of that. *__* What are people thinking, really? ...But also, more great authors are getting interested as they see the movie, so. :Da TRADE-OFF I CAN LIVE WITH.
*crosses fingers* Failure was never an option. /shot
Oh lord no, the movie only came out on June 3rd. XD I'm just overeager, because people are already making cool fanvids and stuff but the video is from this godawful cam torrent, so it's like--;_; /WANT PRETTIES NAO. That DVD is so mine when it comes out, omg. I'm finally going to be able to see it in the theaters again sometime this week. :D /drags all her friends
Oh man, don't worry about that, I am so nervous about my Erik, lol, for some of the reasons above (backstory holes, waaaaaat ;A;) and just. CAN I EVEN DO HIM JUSTICE, NO WAY ORZ. But I totally want to try! 8D
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Yeah, I can live with that trade off. It really happens everywhere you go, that's why rec lists are the best! Or asking friends, haha. I would rec you some but you've probably read the ones I liked. You're a little ahead of me, I'd say.
HAHAHA!! Love it.
I know I know. I saw it that day because X-Men movies have been my love since the first one. *nerd* You haven't seen it in the theater yet?! The camera quality on the top one is HORRIBLE. Every time they cut to an outdoor scene, it spasms! YOU NEED TO SEE THE FILM IN ITS TRUE NATURE.
New muses are always like that! Especially since this one seems to really bring out some really GOOD writers. It's not every day you happen upon a fandom that does that!!
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Definitely. I've been considering putting together an actual recs list an posting it—some of the recs lists put up some far have been a little...undiscriminating, others have been good—but I'm always like, ugh, all that html coding. ;_; /camps out on Delicious
I say it in the theaters on the day it came out! That's why I'm a little ahead, I think, lol, aside from your computer previously being on the fritz. I'm finally going to be able to see it again in its true nature—the torrent really is awful, but that doesn't mean I haven't been watching my favorite scenes about a million times. >.> I've liked X-Men since the X-Men: Evolution cartoon, myself, but I was always partial to Gambit and Rogue and Scott never saw the light of CHARLES and ERIK until this movie. *dreamy*
VERY TRUE. I am both thrilled to see so many awesome people coming out of the woodwork, and intimidated as hell. XD
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Yeah, I wouldn't do it. Keep it to yourself so that they're more special that way. I bet most of the same ones are getting recced anyway. If people get desperate, they can always go to ff.net. That's ALWAYS a source of good stuff. One of the prompts on the kink meme got a link to ff.net and I made the mistake of giving it the benefit of the doubt. Never again. ;_;
I saw it the day it came out too! I was just not on a computer to really put my fandomy potential to good use! I've actually seen it twice in theaters and...have been invited by two more people to see it two more times. I'm wondering if I might be pushing it. :| Your favorite scenes? I bet I can guess! I loved X-Men: Evolution! I even had a website and wrote fanfiction that was horrible! I never saw the light to them either because they were old. I did write a fanfiction from the point of view of Professor Xavier but...he was old. And the fanfiction was crack.
It's intimidating but if you think about it...we're roleplaying. It's not like we're playing a competitive sport or anything! So it's not a contest and just FUN!
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...Oh you poor soul. Suckered into visiting the Pit. D: Yeah, I've pretty much decided that I'm only going to rec things that it feels absolutely necessary to, like if it isn't on the comms so people might miss something really good.
Aha, that's what I thought! LOL, I will be seeing it again tomorrow, finally. :)a With fandom-y friends, thank god, 2 out of 3 of which will also be seeing it for the second time, hahaha. ...My favorite scenes are very predictable. >.>a
I RPed as Gambit from Evo for a while, some months ago! I loved that series so much; I think it still forms the basis of how I think of some of the characters. Scott and Jean, particularly, since I never saw them much in the comics. And fff, yes, I never really consider shipping old people. >_>a
VERY TRUE.
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Like the one you recced the other day? I didn't read it because, at the moment, I really only have eyes for certain things. Perhaps when I've gotten over myself, I shall delve into it!
That's so awesome. The friend I saw it with the first time is the friend I went to see all the X-Men movies with. She's read some of my fanfiction too so we were pretty much just puddles of goo after that movie and she's been spamming my facebook wall and my email with pictures and youtube videos. I'm jealous of you seeing it again in the theater! I fear that, by the time I get back from Spain, I'll have to wait until DVD. :(
HAHA! AWESOME. I love Gambit. In Evo, he was a little not there. I totally see Scott the way he is in Evolution. Kurt too. When I saw X2, I was like: "HE'S OUT OF CHARACTER!!! HE'S NOT NEARLY HAPPY ENOUGH!!" I kind of shipped Professor X and Magneto but it was totally as a joke and like they were senile old men. But this. This is just beautiful.
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Yep, like that one. :)a It's really great all around, I hope you'll get back to it sometime! And I definitely get 'only having eyes for certain things', lol, I'm the same way. What are you looking for right now?
Heh, so cool! I don't know how into X-Men or this movie any of my friends are, but I'm hoping to be able to get at least some of that same kind of squee! \o/ Oooo, you're going to Spain? That's an okay trade-off for not being able to see XFC in theaters again! XD
LOL, yes, he requires a lot of headcanon playing from Evo, but luckily his episode with Rogue in New Orleans packed in a lot of character and backstory stuff. /o/ I was bummed he wasn't in it more, though. Haha, I loved Kurt in X2! He's kind of a dope in Evo, but he's fun.
Yeah, I was aware the ship existed, but it was kind of abstract. THIS IS SO NOT ABSTRACT.
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Man, how can you watch the movie and NOT get into it. I feel like this movie has the ability to turn normal people into slashers. Just sayin'. (Maybe I'll go see it in Spanish...)
I loved him in X2 too but Evo definitely ruined a lot of the characterizations for me. (Like I loved Pyro in the movie and the show but they were two completely different characters. He's also WAY different in the comic too.) I just downloaded X2 though so I plan on watching it on the plane. Hur hur.
YES. It was like: "Yeah, I see it but I'm not going to actually actively ship it......" But this is more like if you DON'T ship it, you're weird and hate puppies.
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I KNOW, RIGHT? I will occasionally come across people who didn't see the slash and kind of double-take in amazement. Like, okay, whatever floats your boat, no big...BUT TWO GENERATIONS OF THEIR ACTORS SHIP IT AND IT WAS PLAYED LIKE A ROMANCE AND OMG. If that relationship doesn't ping as even a little homoerotic, what does? 8|a
Haaaaha, yeeeah, I still don't know what the original Kitty is supposed to be like. ~o~ Just never encountered her outside Evo, really. And man, I downloaded X1 and X2 a while back too and I've been meaning to rewatch them...but on the other hand I'm kind of apprehensive about doing that because I don't necessarily think that First Class Charles and Erik grew up into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan's versions (so many continuity discrepencies), so I'm a little wary that my view of their relationship in FC would be influenced. Also, their star-crossed angst would probably hit me much harder this time around. ;A;
EXACTLY.
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I can't imagine Kitty being too different. I mean, she's always kind of...THE KID. I'm going to watch X1 and X2 with my First Class goggles on and see just HOW strong their love is. >D It's gonna be fabulous. There are a lot of discrepancies but I can look past those for the sake of LURVE. And yes. They always had those little ~moments~ when they were old men that I just kind of brushed aside. So I'm going to totally just LOOK for them. :D :D :D :D
I see you doing bad things in that icon, Erik. Be the better man.
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The kid, yes, but I hear she's actually a computer prodigy nerd with a pet alien dragon instead of...a valley girl. XD Oh man, I know, I've been seeing little clips of X1-X3 Charles/Erik interspersed in XFC fanvids, and I'm like whoa. Hold up there now.
I already am, Charles. /KILLS PEOPLE. FOR JUSTICE.
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But yeah. I knew she was a computer prodigy. In Evo, they tried to make her smart but that lasted for like...four episodes. And I've seen the dragon and gone: "WTF?" I don't think we're missing much with that. Hahaha. I love how the entire world caught this bug. I mean, there are slash pairings in EVERY movie, what makes this one so much better?
YOU WILL NEVER FIND PEACE THIS WAY. /manly tear
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...Also, WHEEE PRETTY CHARLES ICONS, and lmao, uh, great keywords? XD
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